Adding A Cruise Control To A Tdi Afn 110bhp? Possible?

[Ginettamad]

Anyone know if you can retrofit a cruise control to a 99 AFN TDI as some cars of that age had them fitted but mine hasn't?

Whats involved, if I found a car with it at a scrappers? Are the Petrol model cruise controls the same as our local scrapper has one in?

Harvey

Edited September 23, 2008 by Ginettamad

[bj2004]

hi

one way to tell is start engine and rev to 2000 then keeping revs steady press brake pedal if engine slows to idle your ecu will take a cruise control

i dont know if its same for petrol

i retro fitted mine using a kit from e-bay dead easy only 5 wires

[tdi90]

Petrol cruise is totally different to tdi cruise. Petrol is vacum, tdi is electrical.

 

You need to check:

 

For a switch (almost the same as the brake light switch) on the clutch pedal. (get a torch and practice ya yoga :lol: )

Take off the top and bottom steering colum surrounds, and if there is a black connector plugged into a blank socket near to the indicator stalk connector, you can add cruise control.

 

Buy a 2nd hand stalk unit with the cc switches & swop it over for yours (Disconnect the battery first, as you'll be pulling about very close to the airbag)

Next, get vagcom or pop along to ya local VW/Ford dealer and ask them to put in the 'login in' code to activate it.

 

I know this works, cos I did my TDi yesterday :D

Edited September 23, 2008 by tdi90

[bj2004]

hi

the kit i got had the wireing harness with it you get stalk cables and instructions for abou

[tdi90]

I got my stalk from ebay

[Ginettamad]

Thanks I'll try that test with the brake pedal and look for the socket. Is there a black box to fit as well as the Column switches or are the switches all I need from the scrappers? Anyone live near Tadcaster/York with the VAG com thingy bob to check my car. Its a Late MK1 1999 TDi AFN 110?

Who sells the ebay aftermarket unit by the way and does it work well?

Harvey

[insider]

No black box as the cruise control is ECU controlled. The switches feed directly into the ECU via the wiring loom.

(I'm not sure if there's a difference between the switches for petrol / diesel models though - Ford petrol models have a separate C/C module and actuator)

[tdi90]

All you will need is a new stork unit. Doesnt matter if it came from a petrol or diesel (mine came from a petrol).

 

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trk...indicator+stalk also do a search for alhambra /sharan stalks.

 

They do come up cheaper, just keep looking (as I said, mine was

[Ginettamad]

So TDi90, looks like your Gal is same year as mine and a petrol stalk worked ok on a Tdi? I'll do a search for the stalks then but will I still need the ECU altering as I suspect that will be costly at a dealers? Bloody hate having to go to main dealers! Do the stalks need to be from a set year and specced car as I was told recently?

I had a quote of

[tdi90]

Pm now on the way to ya fella.

[Ginettamad]

Ok thanks now waiting to win one on fleebay!

[Ginettamad]

Ok Chaps, I have now won a set of CC Stalks to fit tonight then I'll try my local Ford dealer to see if he can set my car up to use the CC. What do I ask for an ECU re set or update?

I have a long trip to make on Sunday down the M1 to test it out.

Harvey

[bj2004]

Ok Chaps, I have now won a set of CC Stalks to fit tonight then I'll try my local Ford dealer to see if he can set my car up to use the CC. What do I ask for an ECU re set or update?

I have a long trip to make on Sunday down the M1 to test it out.

Harvey

 

tyr it first it may already be enabled

[Ginettamad]

No such luck!

H

[tdi90]

Tell them you need to put a login code in the engine ecu.

 

tbh, ya better off going to a vag garage.

[Ginettamad]

---king dealer wants

[tdi90]

If the laptop has a usb port ya want one of these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAG-COM-USB-VW-Audi-...id=p3286.c0.m14

If it aint, ya want one of these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAG-COM-SERIAL-VW-Au...id=p3286.c0.m14

 

They both should come with vagcom 409. If not, download it here www.rosstech.com

 

Activation is as per my pm.

[gregers]

just read the advert from your 1st link tdi90 and it says it can match keys???? or does that require the full working version of vag-com???

[tdi90]

As far as I am aware, Vagcom cannot key match or re code stereos. There are no options in my fully registered vagcom anyhoooo (409.1).

 

It may be something the seller has added?

[Ginettamad]

Thanks I've ordered the USB one so fingers crossed I can find a Laptop to borrow with USB. On hols from Friday so I'll be back with questions once I try it out.

Anyone got good step by step Laptop loading instructions to activate the Cruise stalks? Tdi ?

Harvey

[bj2004]

Activating Cruise Control (DBW) with VAG-COM:

ECU's often come with cruise control de-activated.

If this is the case, there will not be a letter "G" in the Component

field of VAG-COM when connected to the Engine.

[select]

[01 - Engine]

[Login - 11]

Enter 11463 to activate cruise control

[Do It!]

After doing this procedure, there should be a letter "G" in the

Component field.

[Ginettamad]

bj2004

I have loaded vag-com but no idea if its loaded properly as I had no instructions? Then tested and it took a lot of fiddling with the cable to find the interface but when I ticked the dumb mode it linked up so I followed the commands as you say but nothing changed on screen after the login 11 and number? It just shows the car details before login11 and those details stay on screen after i try the code?

My car is a 1999 so is the code the correct one? Any way I can test the software to see if its loaded correctly?

The fault code search said No faults so thats good.

Harvey

Anyone coming near Tadcaster A1 / M1 who can help?

[Ginettamad]

Sorry I missed your reply PM Tdi.

Still not sorted CC and had to give boorowed Laptop back but from reading about VAG could the driver by wrongly loaded? It seems to work to a degree but when login on button pressed the fields dont change? No idea how to sort this but it may explain why following the instructions dont seem to change anything on the component field which remains showing my ecu number I presume?

Any VAG boffins out there that can show me step by step or button by button?

H

[tdi90]

Vagcom can be a bit of git to load onto a Vista machine.

You have to run the program for combatility with XP and run as admin

 

 

Also check that the vagcom cable is in the correct usb port. iirc, vagcom only has 4 test ports, where as some laptops have more, or list them as different numbers so you have to experiment or assign the cable a usb port between 1 - 4 on the laptop.

 

Loading onto XP should be a doddle bar checking the usb port assignment

 

 

Dont forget that you could also have a faulty stalk unit. The first one I brought, the cc 'on' & 'ressume' buttons didnt work.

[Ginettamad]

Laptop running Xp I think not Vista, not sure how to run as admin or compatability test? Ltop has two usb ports and it must be working to check for fault codes which seemed to work? It took a lot of attempts to find the interface until I used dumb mode which worked. When going to Login 11 button nothing seemed to change in the number fields when I added the code? No G suddenley appeared anywhere?

I noitced my lead only has a few pins in it for some reason?

Harvey